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How to get an EIN without a Social Security Number

Why the IRS online EIN application is closed to founders without an SSN, how the fax and phone routes work, how long each takes, and what arrives at the end.

Updated 17 September 2026Checked against the sources named in the text

An Employer Identification Number, or EIN, is the nine-digit number the IRS gives a company. Despite the name, it has nothing to do with having employees. Every US bank, payment processor and marketplace asks for it first, and it's where founders abroad most often get stuck. Getting one isn't hard, but the quick online route is closed to anyone without a Social Security Number, and few people say so up front.

Why you can't apply online

The IRS's online application needs the responsible party's Social Security Number or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, and it won't go further without one. The responsible party is the person who controls the company, which is you. Someone living outside the US usually can't get an SSN and, in most cases, has no reason to get an ITIN, so the online form isn't an option.

A company with a foreign owner is still entitled to an EIN. The IRS just issues it by a slower route.

The two routes that work

Form SS-4 by fax

Form SS-4 is the paper application. If you have no SSN or ITIN, the IRS's instructions say to write "foreign" or N/A where the responsible party's number goes, and a single-member LLC checks Other on line 9a and writes "disregarded entity". The form is then faxed to the IRS's number for international applicants. The IRS says a fax application with a return fax number is answered within about four business days. For foreign-owned companies, twenty to thirty business days is more typical, and the number is often assigned before the confirmation letter arrives.

By phone, for international applicants

The IRS runs a phone line, 267-941-1099, for applicants with no legal residence, principal place of business or principal office in the US. It isn't toll-free and it's open from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. US Eastern time, Monday to Friday. The caller has to be someone authorised to sign the form, or a third-party designee named on a signed SS-4, with the completed form to hand. The EIN is given during the call. It's the fastest route when you get through, but the waits on hold can be very long.

What the form asks for

Form SS-4: the lines that matter
Line
What it asks
For a founder abroad
1
Legal name of the entity
Exactly as the state approved it, suffix included
4a to 4b
Mailing address
Where the IRS sends its letters. Your address abroad works, with the country included
7a to 7b
Responsible party and their number
Your name, and "foreign" or N/A where the SSN would go
8a to 8c
LLC questions
Yes, it's an LLC; the number of members; organised in the US
9a
Type of entity
Other, with "disregarded entity" written in, for a single-member LLC
10
Reason for applying
Started new business
11
Date business started
The date the state approved the company
16 and 17
Principal activity
What the company actually does, in plain words
18
Applied for an EIN before?
No, unless it has. Two EINs for one company take a long time to untangle

What arrives, and what to do with it

On the fax route, the IRS faxes the number back, and most banks accept that. The formal confirmation is a notice called the CP 575, posted once to the mailing address on the form, and it's the document banks and processors usually ask for. If it's lost, the IRS issues a replacement confirmation, the 147C letter, on request.

Once you have the number, you can open the bank account, register with Stripe or PayPal, complete a marketplace's tax interview, and file the company's first return the following spring. None of that can start without it, which is why it pays to form the company well before you need the account.

Mistakes that cost weeks

  • Applying before the state approves the company. The SS-4 asks for the legal name and start date. An application for a name the state hasn't approved can be rejected, or issued to a company that doesn't exist yet.
  • Applying twice. A second application while the first is pending can produce two numbers, and sorting that out takes months. Chase the one you filed instead.
  • Using someone else's SSN. A friend in the US isn't the responsible party. Putting their number on the form misstates who controls the company and makes them the person the IRS writes to.
  • Ticking the wrong entity type. A single-member LLC that ticks Corporation, or a partnership that ticks disregarded entity, has told the IRS to expect the wrong return. It can be fixed, but it takes letters and time.
  • A mailing address nobody checks. The CP 575 goes to the mailing address on the form and nowhere else. If nobody is there to receive it, it's gone.

Do you need an ITIN first?

No. An ITIN is a personal tax number for people who have to file a US tax return and can't get an SSN. You don't need one to form a company or to get its EIN. Some founders need one later, to report US income personally or because a particular bank insists. There's a separate guide on when you actually need an ITIN.

Questions

The questions this guide gets asked.

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The IRS online application needs the responsible party to have an SSN or ITIN, and it won't submit without one. So the application goes on paper, on Form SS-4, by fax or through the IRS's telephone line for international applicants. The IRS works that queue by hand.

No. The SS-4 asks for a mailing address, and yours can be outside the United States. It also asks for the company's address in its state, which is your registered agent's. Every plan includes the agent for the first year.

On the ordinary route, twenty to thirty business days from the day we file, which is the day the state approves your company. With the expedited EIN, one to two weeks. The IRS queue moves at its own pace, so both are estimates, not promises.

No. You don't need an ITIN to get an EIN. We file the SS-4 with the responsible party's number marked Foreign. Some founders apply for an ITIN later for their personal US tax filings. That's a separate matter.

The IRS notice that confirms your EIN. The IRS posts it once. Banks and payment processors ask to see it, so we keep it in your documents. If it's ever lost, we request the replacement letter, the 147C, for you.

No. The responsible party on the SS-4 must be the person who controls the company. Using someone else's number tells the IRS something untrue. The expedited EIN is the honest way to shorten the wait.

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